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Part 3: Diane’s Line. Niels Nielsen Gram to Peder Hansen Gram

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Murdered by non-commissioned officer Hans Stabell, during a wedding.

 

When asked about "coat of arms"  the following comment has been made (possible source).
Hi! In the book 'Norwegian genealogical weapons', published by Messrs. Hans A.K.T. Cappelen and 
Didrik Rye Heyerdahl in 1976 (2nd ed.), We can read at the top of page 106: (ie a description of the weapon) 
fourfold; 1st field in blue a deviated silver moon, in 2nd and 3rd field red, 4. field in blue a gold 
lily.On the helmet a black horse head with a green twig in the muzzle.Also led with ascending silver 
horse on the helmet or with a head, composed of top horse head and below to each side a male and a 
buck head, all on two rooster legs. Other weapons also carried. Mads Nielsen Gram (1601 in Fron) 
was possibly of Danish descent. The weapon was known from the latter part of the 18th century. 
Source: Norwegian Genealogical Calendar , Copenhagen 1967. (HG) means that the weapon was designed by 
Harald M. Gram.Mvh Sven Erling.

another comment:

See Jens Gram's article in Norsk Slektshistorisk Tidsskrift, XXII, pages 171-194: 
'Something about the oldest members of the Gram family in Norway'. According to this 
article, it is probable (but not certain) that Mads Nilsen Gram's father was 
Niels Simonsen Gram, parish priest in Gram parish in Denmark. He died in Gram in 
1561 and was born on the farm Bæk in Mistrup parish around 1495. Mads Nilsen Gram was 
born, probably in Gram parish, around 1530. He was a teacher at Oslo Cathedral School 
before 1570 and became principal there in 1571. In or before 1579 he became parish priest 
in Fron and before 1591 he also became dean of Gudbrandsdalen prostitute. In 1598 he 
gave as a gift a chalice with an inscription to Fron church. This lime is found today. 
He died on 24 December 1601 in From and was buried on 26 December. 
His wife was Birgitte Østensdatter (she died in 1623) and they had three known children, 
Marit (married to bailiff Matz Nilsen), Peder (parish priest in Øyer, married to a 
Karine, murdered in 1584 in Øyer by non-commissioned officer Hans Stabell) and Lars. 
Lars was thus born approx. 1560, first bailiff for the Rosenkrantzer, then the king's 
bailiff in Gudbrandsdalen 1608-1613. Died 1631 on his farm Steig in Fron. 
He became a very large landowner and was considered the richest man in Gudbrandsdalen. 
Organized the farmers' fight against the Scots train in 1612. 
By the way, Gram is in Haderslev municipality approx. 12 miles east of Ribe in 
Southern Jutland. The city currently has 2,500 inhabitants. 
Gram Church is a beautiful Romanesque stone church from approx. 1200.

Another comment mentions a source:

Good morning, I suppose you know H.T. Gram's book published in 1982; 
'Trönderslekten Gram' - with an overview of other current Gram genera in 
Norway. Several genera with the name GRAM are mentioned here, including 
Gudbrandsdalsslekten after Mads GRAM. I can not remember on the fly whether 
coat of arms e, l, is treated in the book, but can see if you want it. Regards Thomas

Someone says,

We must also not forget the Gram family in Trondenes. 

 

Parish priest Christopher Madsen Gram in Ullensaker (1640-1691) was the great-grandson of parish priest Mads Nilssøn Gram in Fron (1532-1601). The Gram family in Trondenes has nothing to do with the Gudbrandsdal family Gram, but with Gram in Karlsøy and a Gram family from Trondheim (Jørgen Johansen Gramb).

Laurits Christensøn Gram was parish priest in Modum 1680- 1708. He was married to Inger Gundersdatter. Where do these belong in the Gram family?

Hi! From Dansk Personalhistorisk Tidsskrift 1st row, 3. volume (1882), in Cand. Jur. 
EAThomle's article 'Gravskrifter fra Stavanger Domkirke', we can read from s.i44 
(I have scissored it a bit, since the art. The family circle around parish priest 
Mr. Nils Christophersen Hon (1656-1720) at Eiker); 'He (ie. Claus (Nilsen) Winther) 
was a son of Mr. Nils Christophersen, parish priest of Eiker, whose father 
Christopher Nilsen (died 7 / 11-1661), farmer on Hon på Eiker, was married to 
Marthe Christensdtr. GRAM. She was the daughter of a citizen on / in Bragernes Christen Michelsen 
and Maren GRAM (mentioned without patronymic icon). These also had the children 
HR. LAURITZ CHRISTENSEN GRAM who was appointed parish priest at Modum 2 / 5-1671, 
no children with his wife Inger Gundersdtr. Thomle further writes that 
'The mentioned Maren Gram was without a doubt related to (possibly a daughter of?) 
The acquaintance from the Scottish War Lars / Lauritz GRAM, who from 1610-14 appears 
as bailiff in Gudbrandsdalen ... etc.'. (Sic ) Now there is also a GRAM family from 
one of the Stavlum farms on Øvre Eiker, cognatically, means to remember that this was in 
the early 1700s. (Free from memory, it is mentioned in the book about the Trønder family 
GRAM from 1982 !!.) Regards Sven Erling.

 

A question about Trondhjems-Gramer in the 18th century: Have on a couple of occasions looked 
through the mentioned book 'Trønder-Gram' family - but not found 'my' Trondhjems-Gram from the 
18th century: ANDREAS GRAM (1691-1748). Skipper citizen and suitcase captain in Trondheim. 
It is uncertain where he came from; Gram family from Trøndelag or Western Norway? Married 1) 
1724 SOPHIE PHILIPSDTR CRAMER (1697-1736) Four children. Married 2) 1737 IDE HANSDTR. THODE (1712-1797).
 Eight children. Andreas Gram died 02.02. 1748, buried 09.02. 1748, Our Lady's Church in 
Trondheim. In her older days, widow Ide Thode Gram was busy in St. Jørgen's house in Trondheim.
 Andreas Gram and Sophie Cramer had four children: 1. Michel Gram (1720-1762). Merchant and 
skipper in Trondheim. G.m. Anna Dorothea Hoe.2. Inger Marie Gram (1725-1782). G.m. 
Job Hansen Thode (1713-1766) .3. Abel Gram (1735-1798). G.m. Philip Weisser (1730-1813). 
I am a descendant of the two daughters Inger Marie and Abel - but would like to know a little
 more about their father Andreas Gram in Trondheim. Have seen Per Nermo's pages online, and he 
has an uncertain theory about the origin of Western Norway. Anyone have ideas ??? Thanks for 
all the input. mvh Knut Inge.

 

Lauritz Madssøn Gram (c1559-1631) (bailiff in Fron)'s brother Peder (c1558-1584) was parish priest in Øyer, and was injured to death during a wedding on the farm Høvren in 1585. On August 2, 1585, the case was up on Herredagen , where NCO Hans (Bastiansen) Stabell was designated as the perpetrator. This Gram family thus originates from Gram in Ribe, Denmark. The perpetrator Hans Stabell was on the run, and was found dead in Sweden later that month. There is uncertainty about where this Hans Stabell ev. served except in Øyer, as well as whether he had children.

 

To (13): Just want to add that there are several different Norwegian Gram genera that hardly have anything to do with each other. Firstly, it is the family after parish priest and rector Mads Gram that is most about in this thread, but also the Trønderslekten Gram, Hølandslekten Gram, Nøtterøyslekten Gram and Lærdalslekten Gram. Jens Gram argues in 'Something about the oldest members of the Gram family.' NST 22 (1970): 171-193 very convincing that Mads Gram was the son of Niels Simonsen, the first parish priest in Gram in Southern Jutland after the Reformation, although one may not say that it is proven. In a previous article, Thomle himself had some speculations about Mads Gram's origins that have turned out to be completely on the ground, so be careful with old literature (from before Jens Grams article)!

12 :) Sophie Phillipsdatter Cramer and Andreas Mikkelsen Gram (c1691-1748) apparently had 7 children. In addition to the three you mentioned, I have noted Bergitte Marie b. 1736. Of the children from the second marriage, I have noted Sophie (Cramer) 1738, Hilchen 1743 and Elisabeth 1744.

 

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